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Hunting: An Activity for Grandchildren?

Hunting may be a tradition. But your grandchildren may not want to join you.

by Jack Beaudoin

Norm Phelps, 69, of Funkstown, Md., remembers boyhood days in the Tidewater region of Virginia, hunting bobwhites, squirrels, rabbits, and an occasional red fox, with the breeze blowing off Chesapeake Bay.

"I hunted a lot as a child and a teenager," Phelps says. "I started when I was 7. Everybody I looked up to hunted — my father, all the males in my family, even the preacher."

So you might expect Phelps to be planning to pass on the family tradition to his five grandchildren. Don't bet on it. "Just because something is a tradition doesn't make it right," says Phelps, who quit the sport when he was a teen and is now a leading animal-rights author. "There are good traditions and bad traditions, and hunting is bad. Why would I want to turn my grandchildren into people who kill animals for fun?"

A Bonding Experience

Marian Love Phillips, 67, of Vicksburg, Miss., sees it differently. The grandmother or step-grandmother of 14 took up hunting in 1985, after meeting her second husband. She says her involvement in the sport has given her opportunities to connect with her family and share her knowledge and passion for the outdoors. "Every time I take my grandchildren hunting, I tell them stories of my hunting experiences, how to respect their firearms, and so on," she says. "I hope they will remember all the things that I try to instill in them. It has been a great bonding experience that I will always remember and I hope they will as well."

Phillips recalls her first hunting excursion five years ago with her grandson Carl, now 18. "We must have sat there for a good two hours or so when Carl spotted a buck coming up to cross over the levee," Phillips says. "He was using my .270 Ruger, which is a powerful gun for a little guy like him. I had taught him to take a deep breath to relax before he made a shot," she adds, and when he did, "Bam! I literally had to catch him so he would not fall off the stool. It was the most exciting and the most exhilarating day of my life and his."

A Tradition Worth Preserving?

Hunting's popularity is waning across the country — about 12.5 million Americans say they hunt today, down from 19.1 million in 1975, according to the federal Fish and Wildlife Service. Several states are now taking steps to revive interest in hunting among young people. A new West Virginia law allows public schools to offer elective gun-safety courses to students in grades 6 to 12. Other states, including Michigan, Nebraska, South Carolina, and Utah, have considered proposals to lower or eliminate minimum age requirements for hunters. (Most of the 20 states that have minimum-age rules require children to be 12 before they can hunt large animals such as deer or wild turkeys.)

Grandparents who hunt say sharing the sport with the next generation gives them an important opportunity to pass on an endangered tradition and to participate more actively in their grandchildren's lives. "It's not possible for me to experience the latest technology, the electronic games, the do-dads, with my grandson," says George Smith, 59, of Mt. Vernon, Maine, who is the grandfather of one and the executive director of the Sportsman's Alliance of Maine. "But I do know hunting. I know fishing. These are things I can share with him."

Smith and others also insist that hunting meets broader social goals."Our society will continue to need hunters and hunting," he says. "In southern Maine, there's an epidemic of Lyme disease because the deer population is out of control. There is no other effective way to limit that population except through hunting, and if we don't introduce hunting to our children and grandchildren, who will? They're certainly not learning it in the schools."

Hunting to help limit local deer populations, Smith says, is an example of good stewardship of the nation's land, and it's a lesson grandparents should teach their grandchildren. Smith's own children do not hunt, but he hopes to introduce the sport to his grandson. "I feel a real sense of urgency about this," he says.

The Case Against Hunting

"Hunting is riddled with abuses that many people — including kids — are horrified by," says Casey Pheiffer, campaign manager for the Wildlife Abuse Campaign at The Humane Society of the United States. She urges grandparents not to hunt with their grandchildren. "I think it's great that grandparents want to share the outdoors with their grandchildren, but those connections can absolutely be made without a weapon."

The Humane Society's position is that "hunting doesn't encourage compassion for animals," Pheiffer says. Among other concerns, the group believes, children who don't hunt at an early age are less likely to be desensitized to killing and violence; non-hunting outdoor activities are inherently safer for young children; and even "ethical hunting" is inextricably bound up in controversial practices. "Kids are definitely choosing not to go into the woods to kill wildlife," Pheiffer says. "That reflects a shift in values, and grandparents ought to respect that shift."

Phillips concedes that there may be a generational shift in attitudes toward hunting. "The desire has to be there," she says. "When my grandsons were coming up, they saw that I was a hunter and wanted to emulate me, and I was willing to teach them. Just being in the outdoors is so much fun, and they enjoyed going to the camp and learning the positive aspects of hunting. You can tell them about hunting and let them experience being in the woods, but if the desire is not there, you should not pressure them."


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6 comments so far...

Our grandchildren have hunted with us since they were very little. We respect and love animals, but we also see the need to keep the herd at sustainable levels. We have lived on venison for 45 years...we harvest the deer, do our own butchering, cutting and wrapping. We are grateful for this food and give thanks that it is available to us.

grannycathy on 10/24/08 at 01:47 PM Flag as inappropriate

Ridiculous, and much ado about nothing. Our 3 sons have hunted alongside their dad since the age of 11, and each is the epitome of nonviolent behaviors as adults, they respect and value nature, animals and count some of their best memories walking the woods with their dad. They also contribute to wildlife mgmt. with time and money to protect the environment. Has one of the Humane Society members watched deer, pheasants and other wildlife die slowly due to overpopulation, and lack of food sources? Have they ever hit a deer on the highway due to overpopulation, and had a family member killed as a result? Think about it.

ourprideandjoys on 10/30/08 at 03:55 PM Flag as inappropriate

Hunting is not just a tradition for some families, it is a tradition for our country, That is right, it is an American Tradition

Hunters have a lot of respect for nature and all the animals in Nature. I know of many hunters who have found injured
animals in the woods and took them home to get them fixed up. . . unlike the city slicker who goes in the woods and leaves trash, or starts fires.

And if you think hunting is a bad way to put food on our tables, you should take a trip to your nearest slaughter house and see how food is provided for your table.

The message that is always ringing in my ears is what was drilled into me as a little boy
"You never kill something that your not going to eat, unless it is to protect human life."

Hunting is a great time to share stories of hunting experiences, how to respect their firearms, the inpact on nature of killing animals and the need to select the old animals
and why we need to preserve the woods and all of nature because it provides for us

Children who Hunt realize that when you kill something it is dead and not coming back, unlike in TV.

I think if a study was done you would find there are over a 100 times more people using firearms recklessly than there are of hunters

In respose to "She urges grandparents not to hunt with their grandchildren. "I think it's great
that grandparents want to share the outdoors with their grandchildren, but those connections can absolutely be made without a weapon."

You think so. . . .how about baseball without a bat, or golf without golfclubs

In respose to "The Humane Society's position is that "hunting doesn't encourage compassion for animals," Pheiffer says. Among other concerns, the group believes, children who don't hunt at an early age are
less likely to be desensitized to killing and violence; non-hunting outdoor activities are inherently safer for young children"

When you hunt you dont just pop off a few rounds and go home . . you learn about your environment and the animal you are hunting. And when you get that shot . . then you go see what you shot, you see that it is dead,
you get to clean it and carry it home. I know of nothing that could convince you more of the responsibility of killing anything.

And if you want the child to be safe. . . have them walk instead of riding in a vehical, or riding a bike, and for mercy sake. . . do not send them to a public school.

You want a real study. . . check all the people who shot at other people in the last yr, or 10 yrs, then see what percent of those were hunters

scgrandparents on 10/30/08 at 07:43 PM Flag as inappropriate

Thanks for writing about this. I enjoyed reading both sides of the issue. While I've met many interesting hunters worthy of respect in my life, I can't get past some of the ideas in the hunting community that I find troubling.

For example, I read this comment with interest: Has one of the Humane Society members watched deer, pheasants and other wildlife die slowly due to overpopulation, and lack of food sources?

I must confess I get frustrated with this generalization. Pheasants aren't even native to the US. They were brought here in the 1800s specifically for hunting. And to this day in states where they can't find habitat survive, hunters ask wildlife agencies to stock them in habitat these farm raised animals don't acclamate to before being shot. And the few left over? Yes they starve but only because they were raised in a pen and don't know how to find food for themselves.

So hunters argue your side just like everyone else please, but when things like this persist in hunting culture, I find it hard to whole-heartedly accept it as a wholesome pastime.

KevinMerchant on 11/07/08 at 03:23 PM Flag as inappropriate

I can't imagine any grandparent taking a child hunting. First, it is not safe, but along with that, children love animals. Why take that natural compassion and desensitize a child toward taking a life? I will certainly raise my grandchildren to love and respect animals. They will never hunt, nor would they ever want to.

GrandmamaH on 11/08/08 at 11:01 AM Flag as inappropriate
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Jack Beaudoin is a journalist in Portland, Me., who has written on topics ranging from healthcare technology to politics for more than 15 years.

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